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. >> the president also spoke for the first time about the new pentagon ruling allowing women at the front lines. mr. obama said for all practical matters women are already serving in combat and serving with extraordinary patriotism and distinction. >>> and now to breaking news this morning from southern california where there has been a deadly bus crash. a tour bus apparently hit a pickup truck head on near the city of yucaipa in a remote area of san bernardino county. at least eight people were killed, dozens more hurt. the bus was returning to tijuana, mexico from big bear lake at the time of the accident. the crash happened on a mountainous stretch of highway. >>> new details about the fatal shooting of former navy s.e.a.l. and american sniper author chris kyle and his friend at a texas gun range on saturday. a sheriff in texas says the shooter, also an iraqi war vet, may have been suffering from some sort of mental illness, perhaps ptsd, post-traumatic stress disorder. >> the suspect's mother, she may have reached out to mr. kyle to try and help her son. and we kind of have an i
. >> the president also spoke for the first time about the new pentagon ruling allowing women at the front lines. mr. obama said for all practical matters women are already serving in combat and serving with extraordinary patriotism and distinction. >>> and now to breaking news this morning from southern california where there has been a deadly bus crash. a tour bus apparently hit a pickup truck head on near the city of yucaipa in a remote area of san bernardino county. at least...
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in addition to the pentagon cuts, it would mean tsa agents are furloughed. expect longer lines at airport security. 1,000 fbi and other law enforcement agents forced off the job. 70,000 preschoolers dropped from their head start program. >> it was never meant to become implemented policy. >> reporter: 80% of the pentagon's civilian workforce is based outside of the washington, d.c. area. virginia and california are the states that would be most affected by the furloughs. rob and diana, back to you. >> our thanks to karen. >> you can see from that piece just how widespread these cuts are. but we've seen this drama play out before. we're going to get to the 11th hour, they're going to come up with a deal that prevents all of it, but kicks it all to june 1st. then memorial day weekend, we'll have another deadline crunch. it's the same thing over and over again. it's this really disgusting and frustrating sense of deja vu on capitol hill. >> i have a feeling this has been happening inside of the -- in the inner workings of the government since government was est
in addition to the pentagon cuts, it would mean tsa agents are furloughed. expect longer lines at airport security. 1,000 fbi and other law enforcement agents forced off the job. 70,000 preschoolers dropped from their head start program. >> it was never meant to become implemented policy. >> reporter: 80% of the pentagon's civilian workforce is based outside of the washington, d.c. area. virginia and california are the states that would be most affected by the furloughs. rob and...
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at one point telling the committee that he needs to learn more about the pentagon. saying, quote, if confirmed i intend to know a lot more than i do. jonathan carl, abc news, the white house. >> not a great performance, as you heard. even from people who will vote for him or like him or fellow democrats, you know, who may vote for him. little more critical about the nation's military. does a person not have a right to go into a slaughterhouse and change their opinion on red meat? >> of course. >> republicans say this guy is further left than president obama. republicans are skittish about his nomination. >> people are saying though his performance, well he was really under fire. so i think anyone in that hot seat may not do his or her best they're saying he likely will be confirmed i suspect. >> it is going to be a bumpy ride. >>> in related news, secretary of state hillary clinton leaving office officially today after sounding a warning about civil war in syria. at a sort of exit interview, clinton accused iran of playing an increasingly prominent role directing vi
at one point telling the committee that he needs to learn more about the pentagon. saying, quote, if confirmed i intend to know a lot more than i do. jonathan carl, abc news, the white house. >> not a great performance, as you heard. even from people who will vote for him or like him or fellow democrats, you know, who may vote for him. little more critical about the nation's military. does a person not have a right to go into a slaughterhouse and change their opinion on red meat? >>...
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. >> reporter: the pentagon calls the cuts stupid. and it's hard to disagree. get this, there's billions of dollars the pentagon wants to cut, but isn't allowed. like the upgraded m1 abrams tank, $3 billion. and the spy drone, $2.5 billion. you might think there would be urgent meetings at the white house, but there are none. no meetings or phone calls between the president and republican leaders. jonathan karl, abc news, the white house. >> certainly not encouraging. >>> it's expected to be an emotional day in the senate as lawmakers consider a revamped assault weapons ban. among those expected to testify are the parents of a child killed at sandy hook elementary. the nra promises to fight any restrictions on gun ownership. >>> and one-fifth of americans polled by kaiser family foundation admits they know a victim of gun violence. among the african-americans polled, 42% say they know a gun crime victim. 75% of latinos, 62% of african-americans and 30% of whites worry about being victimized themselves. >> i have to say, this is a story that transcends not -- an
. >> reporter: the pentagon calls the cuts stupid. and it's hard to disagree. get this, there's billions of dollars the pentagon wants to cut, but isn't allowed. like the upgraded m1 abrams tank, $3 billion. and the spy drone, $2.5 billion. you might think there would be urgent meetings at the white house, but there are none. no meetings or phone calls between the president and republican leaders. jonathan karl, abc news, the white house. >> certainly not encouraging. >>>...
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pentagon or at the department of defense. it is a problem of misallocation of resources from the front end. let me give you one example of that. soviets during the cold war had a saying better is the enemy of good enough. they would look at the military equipment, if what they had was good enough to do the job they would not overpay for something better. here in the states we have serious problem overpaying for equipment that is more than adequate for the job that is required. a perfect example of that is the f-35. you i am a retired naval aviator. i spent 20 years fly for the united states navy, 3500 flight hours. if the navy would capable or run its own purchase program the navy wouldn't go anywhere near the f-35 because it cost 2 1/2 times as much f-18 for only marginal increase in capability. melissa: let me start you there. i'm all in favor of cutting spending. >> gotcha. melissa: one. my favorite things in the world except when we're talking about handbags. setting that aside, if you don't do incremental improvements in
pentagon or at the department of defense. it is a problem of misallocation of resources from the front end. let me give you one example of that. soviets during the cold war had a saying better is the enemy of good enough. they would look at the military equipment, if what they had was good enough to do the job they would not overpay for something better. here in the states we have serious problem overpaying for equipment that is more than adequate for the job that is required. a perfect example...
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the pentagon says more than half of the air force aircraft will be grounded in to demands but after a decade in which they increase there budget by 70 percent could you pay for maintenance with some of that? neil: more like 850 billion not 85 billion. >> somebody is exaggerating. >> with the senate appropriation committee of the jobs are at risk, not that the rubber rooms are closed but the jobs are at risk in trying to scare people about the firefighters about losing their jobs. neil: like i am a risk of being thin is always a worry but where does this go? alice rivlin touched on this but stable spend like crazy so everyone needs to be alcoholic at the a meeting to say i am misspending pollack and i will admit that and move on but we're so interested how we got here we're not dealing with the real issues to get us out. >> right. ball sides are behaving with children
the pentagon says more than half of the air force aircraft will be grounded in to demands but after a decade in which they increase there budget by 70 percent could you pay for maintenance with some of that? neil: more like 850 billion not 85 billion. >> somebody is exaggerating. >> with the senate appropriation committee of the jobs are at risk, not that the rubber rooms are closed but the jobs are at risk in trying to scare people about the firefighters about losing their jobs....
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the pentagon as stuff for a long time is sicily every major corporation has been attacked by the people's liberation army. so what the chinese are doing is looking for their asymmetric point advantage. they cannot match as in conventional forces and nuclear forces are made it -- naval forces, so they're going after our vulnerability, reliance on information technology. they're way ahead of us in this area. gerri: the president put out an executive order. some vines are something silly. >> sillies exactly right. look. dealing with commercial espionage is apiece through legal means, we have to understand that for china, russia, other countries, this is a form of warfare. i'm not suggesting that the government takeover information security, but i think there are areas where government private-sector cooperation here is important. how to create defenses and for the government, what kind of offense cyber capability we need to deter the chinese and others from doing this. gerri: there are all kinds of different levels. there is out endowed intellectual property theft. there is, you know, goofin
the pentagon as stuff for a long time is sicily every major corporation has been attacked by the people's liberation army. so what the chinese are doing is looking for their asymmetric point advantage. they cannot match as in conventional forces and nuclear forces are made it -- naval forces, so they're going after our vulnerability, reliance on information technology. they're way ahead of us in this area. gerri: the president put out an executive order. some vines are something silly. >>...
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the pentagon budget chief says the effect also be felt across the country. >> frankly, this is one of the least -- or the most distasteful tasks i have faced in my four years in this job. >> the associated furloughs will impact our war fighters, our veterans and family members in untold ways. >> adding his voice to the budget debate, secretary of state john kerry, who says the fiscal impasse is a serious threat to american credibility around the world. >>> investigators uncovered the body of a woman killed in a huge explosion in downtown kansas city. and there are fears that at least one more body may be buried in the debris after a gas leak sparked a blast and fire in a popular dining and shopping district. the explosion went off tuesday night after a construction crew struck a natural gas line. >>> winter storm warnings from albuquerque to chicago. kansas is in the storm's bull's-eye with heavy snow, whiteout conditions and freezing rain on top of that. at least one fatality is being blamed on the storm so far. hundreds of flights have been canceled ahead of the system. >>> here's a
the pentagon budget chief says the effect also be felt across the country. >> frankly, this is one of the least -- or the most distasteful tasks i have faced in my four years in this job. >> the associated furloughs will impact our war fighters, our veterans and family members in untold ways. >> adding his voice to the budget debate, secretary of state john kerry, who says the fiscal impasse is a serious threat to american credibility around the world. >>>...
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we should be asking questions, why the heck do we have 800,000 people working at the pentagon? aren't a few of them doing something we can do without? we neil the sequester average at it important. it's time to start cutting. we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending prop problem, and today is the day to start focusing on it. >> neil: this is the backbone for guys who don't have a backbone, so if you cut then backbone negotiation you're just a jelly fish. we'll see what happens. craig, good seeing you. >>> if the scare tactics don't work, releasing earlies from jail will? and later, i want you to meet the beauty who begs to differ because miss new york is here on this day. how do you keep an oldr car running like new? you ask a ford customer. when they tell you that you need your oil changed you got to bring it in. if your tires need to be rotated, you have to get that done as well. jackie, tell me why somebody should bring they're car here to the ford dealership for service instead of any one of those other places out there. they are going to take care of my car beca
we should be asking questions, why the heck do we have 800,000 people working at the pentagon? aren't a few of them doing something we can do without? we neil the sequester average at it important. it's time to start cutting. we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending prop problem, and today is the day to start focusing on it. >> neil: this is the backbone for guys who don't have a backbone, so if you cut then backbone negotiation you're just a jelly fish. we'll see what happens....
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the pentagon will soon provide some benefits to military partners of don't ask don't tell. leon panetta hasn't finalized which would be provided. a formal announcement is expected in the next several days. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving, or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day, have been reported. lunesta should not be taken together with alcohol. abnormal behaviors may include aggressiveness, agitation, hallucinations, or confusion. in depressed patients, worsening of depression, including risk of suicide, may occur. alcohol may increase these risks. allergic reactions such as tongue or throat swelling occur rarely and may be fatal. side effects may include unpleasant taste, headache, dizziness, and morning drowsiness. ask your doctor if lunesta is right for you. then find out how to get lunesta for as low as fifteen dollars at lunesta.com. there's a land of restful sl
the pentagon will soon provide some benefits to military partners of don't ask don't tell. leon panetta hasn't finalized which would be provided. a formal announcement is expected in the next several days. and lunesta®(eszopiclone) can help you get there. like it has for so many people before. when taking lunesta, don't drive or operate machinery until you feel fully awake. walking, eating, driving, or engaging in other activities while asleep, without remembering it the next day, have been...
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they had the inspector general here at the pentagon launching an investigation. after this exhausted investigation which was finally concluded and it was determined that general allen was involved in no misconduct, no inappropriate language or communications with this socialite, he was cleared of that. in the meantime, his nomination to be the supreme allied commander of europe had been put on hold. the white house has not yet although they support allen has not yet sent that nomination back to the hill and we are told that general allen may not and is strongly considering withdrawing from the nomination because he doesn't want to resurrect that controversy and put he and his family through it. one other thing. there may be family health issues involved here. again, he has not met with president obama and we are told that if president obama tries to talk him into it to go ahead and accept the nomination that it is likely that general allen would decline. >> thank you very much. we are following another breaking news story. the search for the former l.a. cop accus
they had the inspector general here at the pentagon launching an investigation. after this exhausted investigation which was finally concluded and it was determined that general allen was involved in no misconduct, no inappropriate language or communications with this socialite, he was cleared of that. in the meantime, his nomination to be the supreme allied commander of europe had been put on hold. the white house has not yet although they support allen has not yet sent that nomination back to...
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defense secretary telling pentagon employees that the united states cannot dictate to the world. should engage and lead with allies. joining us is andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind sheik and is the author of spring fever, the grand war how islam and the left sabotage america. great to see you. >> good to see you. lou: chuck opposed. republicans beating him up and for what? voted for him. >> is very hard to understand what that was all about. you know, they had an opportunity to blacken. i must say, if you're going to have a confirmation hearing in the result of the confirmation hearing ideology aside is that the guy seems like he is simply not up to the job, a reason why the framers said that he would disqualify someone and, in fact, gave the advice and consent responsibility to the senate. lou: i was talking with senator bill i have immense respect for. in termm of leading the republican party right now, the confusion in both the house and this senate coming up with a five page draft to turn over constitutional powers of the purse to the presiden
defense secretary telling pentagon employees that the united states cannot dictate to the world. should engage and lead with allies. joining us is andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind sheik and is the author of spring fever, the grand war how islam and the left sabotage america. great to see you. >> good to see you. lou: chuck opposed. republicans beating him up and for what? voted for him. >> is very hard to understand what that was all about. you...
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pentagon hasn't had any significant cuts for 30 years. a lot of money that's going to be cut is money that was not asked for but the pentagon was put in by bloated congress people who wanted to do stuff for people in their district. i'm a fairly hawkish on defense, but this is an enterprise that hasn't been touched for 30 years and this may be our only chance. >> that's interesting sort of where the two sides come together, which is to say members of the progressive left think this is the only time we're going to get these defense cuts and deficit hawks, conservatives, tea partiers are putting moderate republicans in a bind saying this is cutting our deficit. let's go for it. >> the grand irony, of course, is the fact that the number -- if you poll people their number one issue is jobs, right? it continues to be jobs. and $120 billion austerity crunch, the numbers being bantered around, in exchange for the sequester, which is like $85 billion. whatever it is, right, that's a big chunk. that will have an effect, negative jobs effect, no qu
pentagon hasn't had any significant cuts for 30 years. a lot of money that's going to be cut is money that was not asked for but the pentagon was put in by bloated congress people who wanted to do stuff for people in their district. i'm a fairly hawkish on defense, but this is an enterprise that hasn't been touched for 30 years and this may be our only chance. >> that's interesting sort of where the two sides come together, which is to say members of the progressive left think this is the...
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and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had almost nothing to do with the actual increase in american troops. what it had to do was the coincidence of a number of things that were already moving in iraq. not least of which was the aw e awak awakening. and it had to do with very frankly a general by the name of david petraeus taking advantage of this in order to enhance his own reputation. and as far as i'm concerned, the increase in troops had nothing to do with the change in the situation in iraq except that it got a bunch of them killed, as senator hagel was careful to point out. >> and that is paralleling his opening comments, wh
and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had...
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apartments, the amount of furloughs, the a lot of services that will be forgone of course the military, the pentagon, the joint chiefs and so forth make clear what the implications will be to national security. it is a bad picture that is painted. liz: if it is not appropriate to properly, at least to the treasury, could the president say, we're willing to look in 85 billion in cuts just appropriated differently. now? >> there is no amount of flexibility or difference of appropriation and adjustments. install, forgo the kind of economic damage to national security damage that will occur if the sequesters on and will we need to do, we need to come around to doing and what congress ought to do is put forward a balanced approach that avoids all of that. it is not necessary for us to have to feel the economic pain that would be entailed. our economy has been moving along at an upward rate at least , pick up that pace. what will be a shame is tiffany's is why congress to rescind an as gears. that will be a self-inflicted wound that we should avoid. liz: less talk about other things that are -- coming to
apartments, the amount of furloughs, the a lot of services that will be forgone of course the military, the pentagon, the joint chiefs and so forth make clear what the implications will be to national security. it is a bad picture that is painted. liz: if it is not appropriate to properly, at least to the treasury, could the president say, we're willing to look in 85 billion in cuts just appropriated differently. now? >> there is no amount of flexibility or difference of appropriation and...
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today pentagon officials said the furloughs over among civilian defense employees will not kick in until late april, not in march. so the talk here about hubs of -- hundreds of thousands of jobs lost would happen over time but not immediately. the president yesterday talking about how people would lose child care, tens of thousands of parents searching for child care. that's not going to happen immediately. it would be over time. jay carney insists just the fear out there is hurting the economy and the point is not whether it's march 1 or march 10. >> what happens on march 1? , march 2? when you say -- the president said hundreds of thousands of jobs. there's not going fob hundreds of thousands the first week. >> no, but there will be job losses. >> quantify this, you're scaring the public that this is going to be happen. >> so the you don't see economic firms are scaring the public and the cbo. >> how do you back up that it's urgent and hundreds of thousands of -- >> i would love to rewind to the questions i get the day of the gdp figure came out for the fourth quarter. the questions we
today pentagon officials said the furloughs over among civilian defense employees will not kick in until late april, not in march. so the talk here about hubs of -- hundreds of thousands of jobs lost would happen over time but not immediately. the president yesterday talking about how people would lose child care, tens of thousands of parents searching for child care. that's not going to happen immediately. it would be over time. jay carney insists just the fear out there is hurting the economy...
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president says the sequester puts hundreds of thousands of jobs in jeopardy from classrooms to the pentagon and defense lie lockheed martin which announced hundreds of layoffs. mr. obama said damage can be stopped if john boehner accepts the white house's final offer from december, meaning up to $600 billion in more tax hikes through cutting deductions, and cuts to medicare and other programs. >> my healthcare proposals achieve the same savings by the beginning of the next decade as reforms that had been proposed by the bipartisan bowls simpson commission. >> republicans were not amused he added his event around the same time eric cantor delivered a speech. gop leaders were clear they want specific cuts and no new tax cuts. >> there's no greater moral imperative than to reduce the debt. >> white house officials have been specific, including about $350 billion in medicare cuts. when asked why the president did not meet the it will for unveiling his new budget for the third straight year, spokesman jay carney blamed republicans saying fiscal cliff talks delayed it. >> part of what the preside
president says the sequester puts hundreds of thousands of jobs in jeopardy from classrooms to the pentagon and defense lie lockheed martin which announced hundreds of layoffs. mr. obama said damage can be stopped if john boehner accepts the white house's final offer from december, meaning up to $600 billion in more tax hikes through cutting deductions, and cuts to medicare and other programs. >> my healthcare proposals achieve the same savings by the beginning of the next decade as...
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he's not somebody who wants cuts anywhere, anytime and this will be forced on him and on the pentagon cuts which he thought the republicans would avoid. he's the commander in chief. he has to worry about the forces, his own secretary of defense said we'll hollow out the forces and it will cost a lot of jobs of contractors, a lot of whom live in a state he wants, virginia. so he has to do something about this and it's unbelievable he would have offered the republicans a deal in which there are extra tax increases. republicans will do nothing and they should do nothing and demand if the president wants to avoid this, you do the ut do them somewhere else but no tax increases. >> charles lam, twice republicans have caved in to the demands of the white house and other democrats. do you think they'll do that again or will they do nothing? >> i prefer not to think of it as caving in. perhaps there's time for everyone to get reasonable. i agree with charles that the president's probably been perform today make this move today by what happened to the economy already under the threat of sequest
he's not somebody who wants cuts anywhere, anytime and this will be forced on him and on the pentagon cuts which he thought the republicans would avoid. he's the commander in chief. he has to worry about the forces, his own secretary of defense said we'll hollow out the forces and it will cost a lot of jobs of contractors, a lot of whom live in a state he wants, virginia. so he has to do something about this and it's unbelievable he would have offered the republicans a deal in which there are...
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important to point out that from the very first time he was in office, he issued gag orders at the pentagon where nobody could even talk about the implications of those cuts. and his latest this week, he issued again memorandums that tell people they cannot talk about the reality of the cuts that are there. lori: we do have some quantitative data from the department of treasury, congressman, on the rate of defense spending, and we do know that it has risen of the last decade by 54%. that is inflation adjusted, obviously we have had it worse in iraq in afghanistan. obviously george w. bush was the president, but it also includes the increase in defense spending and the president obama. there is a case to be made, there is a lot of fat and the department of defense. cuts need to be made. it is i time. >> laurie, there is no question about that. there is that the department of defense and we're working on that in the to continue to work on that. sequestration is not going to get the fat. it is getting a programs that we desperately need doing in an arbitrary way. let me just address that 54 pe
important to point out that from the very first time he was in office, he issued gag orders at the pentagon where nobody could even talk about the implications of those cuts. and his latest this week, he issued again memorandums that tell people they cannot talk about the reality of the cuts that are there. lori: we do have some quantitative data from the department of treasury, congressman, on the rate of defense spending, and we do know that it has risen of the last decade by 54%. that is...
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some republican lawmakers the pentagon itself is partly to blame. jd gordon, former defense department spokesman for donald rumsfeld and robert gates. honor to have you on our program. >> honor to be here, bill. bill: what do you think about what he is making the point he is making? >> understand that he is frustrated but you know i think a lot of frustration should go back to the obama administration. it was the obama administration insist we have sequester if the debt super-committee failed to reach an agreement and they failed to reach an agreement. i remember very specifically at one of the presidential debates president obama told governor romney sequestration is not going to happen. two weeks away and looks like it will happen. it will be devastating for the military. we're talking about curtailed military operations around the globe. reduced funding for mint nance and training. 800,000 dod citizens are looking for furlough or forced time without pay. this will be devastating and we're just getting started with sequestration. bill: the last po
some republican lawmakers the pentagon itself is partly to blame. jd gordon, former defense department spokesman for donald rumsfeld and robert gates. honor to have you on our program. >> honor to be here, bill. bill: what do you think about what he is making the point he is making? >> understand that he is frustrated but you know i think a lot of frustration should go back to the obama administration. it was the obama administration insist we have sequester if the debt...
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the house republicans are putting in a provision that will give agency heads especially at the pentagon the flexibility to decide how cuts are to be administered. the white house is resisting that. this is the empire, the empire striking back, stuart. big bloated government is going to fight for every penny it can get. even though it's only a penny on the dollar they're going to fight fiercely for it they know if it's done once it might be done again. stuart: let me summarize this. we would have these cuts in place until the end of march, and then, because we need to organize our government finances. >> because we haven't had a budget. stuart: we haven't had a budget, those cuts would stay in place and still be cutting the budget, but agency heads would be allowed to say we'll cut the conference budget, we won't cut personnel. >> yes. stuart: we'll cut the school janitor, but not the teacher say that after march 27th. >> that's what the republicans are moving toward. stuart: i can't see how the president could resist that. >> he wants to resist because the cuts would take place, for onc
the house republicans are putting in a provision that will give agency heads especially at the pentagon the flexibility to decide how cuts are to be administered. the white house is resisting that. this is the empire, the empire striking back, stuart. big bloated government is going to fight for every penny it can get. even though it's only a penny on the dollar they're going to fight fiercely for it they know if it's done once it might be done again. stuart: let me summarize this. we would...